Finale Blog: Why I Might Love Sibelius 7

by Scott Yoho 1. September 2011 06:20

Upon hearing that Sibelius 7 had been released, I ordered a copy to check it out. I was especially interested in hearing their new sound library.

As I attempted to install it on my trusty Windows laptop, I received the following error message:


Of course, “Windows NT version 6.0” refers to “Vista,” but I understand. My laptop is happily running Windows XP, and Sibelius 7 requires a newer operating system. However, since I am currently in the middle of several projects, I’m not interested in braving the hurdles of installing a new operating system on my primary work computer.

That’s okay – instead I’ll install Sibelius on my iMac, which is already running a more current operating system.

Only now I’m starting to pay attention to system requirements. While my iMac meets the minimum requirements for Sibelius itself, it doesn’t have enough free hard drive space to install the new sound library, which requires 40 gigabytes!

Just buy a cheap hard drive, right? Except I’d also need more RAM as they recommend 4 GB and I have just 2.

Just buy some RAM, right? Except as I look closer, my 1.83 GHz Intel Core Duo processor doesn’t meet their recommendations to use the new sound library either. Dang.

Since I can’t install their software on either my Mac or Windows computers, I’ve asked my employer to buy me a new Mac which will have an appropriate processor, hard drive, and RAM configuration. If this works, and I get a new Mac, I will already have a soft spot in my heart for Sibelius 7!

I’ll let you know how it goes. In the meantime, check out a few of the differences between Finale and Sibelius 7 (including our spectacular support) here, and please share your thoughts by clicking on "Comments" below. 

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8/26/2011 8:49:32 PM #

J Jennings

With all respect, these type of posts vs. Sibelius are starting to seem a little "desperate."  Rather than these sort of defensive attacks against a new Sibelius, why not start telling us of the great NEW features, redesigns, and long time needed fixes we're going to find in Finale 2012? ;)  

J Jennings United States

8/26/2011 10:27:40 PM #

Piotr

good to know.

Other problem: problems with non-western keys (alt+a,c,z). None of the works.
MusiXML export doesn't work correctly.

Piotr Poland

8/26/2011 10:41:34 PM #

Scott Yoho

Hi J Jennings,

Thanks for your comments and input. We will certainly go into detail about the next version of Finale upon its release this fall.

Best wishes,

Scott at MakeMusic

Scott Yoho

8/26/2011 10:42:42 PM #

Scott Yoho

Hi Piotr,

Thanks for joining us. Are you describing problems you've experienced that are new to Sibelius 7?

Scott at MakeMusic

Scott Yoho

8/26/2011 11:11:34 PM #

Piotr

I am Finale user, but also user of Sibelius (since ver. 4). None of Sibelius 4-6 caused me so many problems. I have bought Sibelius upgrade and I can't use it, becaue of problems with non-western letters (on Sibelius forum I've posted description of my problem(s)). Many of my clients (huge music publishing houses in Germany and Austria) will not use Sib7 (because of XP-incompatibility). If I export to MusicXML Sibelius automatically adds *.sib extenstion not proper Musicxml. An that's only the beginningSmile
I start to think I waisted 129, Euro. I've paid, downloaded huge soundlibrary (40GB). I thouht I could use sound like Aria (that comes with Finale) - as standalone VST instrument. Now I see, that more GB doesn't mean better.

Piotr Poland

8/27/2011 12:07:05 AM #

fratveno (frank nordensten)

Sibelius 7 (using the Sibelius 7 sounds) is not really useable on a Win 7 32-bit system with 4GB (3.5 usable) RAM if you want to play even a modest orchestra. Currently it crashes, but they say they're working on it...

They were probably desperate to win the race against Finale 2012 and released Sib 7 prematurely... Installed, the current Sib 7 sounds occupy 34.2 GB of hard disk space. A modest orchestra typcally takes two minutes to load. Again, this will probably change soon, if their concessions is anything to go by...

fratveno (frank nordensten) Norway

8/27/2011 12:40:09 AM #

Scott Yoho

Dear Piotr,

Thanks for the clarification.

Best wishes,

Scott at MakeMusic

Scott Yoho

8/27/2011 12:44:58 AM #

Scott Yoho

Hi Frank,

It's been a long time sinse we last spoke; I hope you're well. Thanks for your perspective. Waiting two minutes for sounds to load is a long time today, but it wasn't too many decades ago that the Finale manual suggested you extract parts right before bedtime so your parts would be ready in the morning! <g>

Best wishes,

Scott at MakeMusic

Scott Yoho

8/27/2011 1:07:45 AM #

Jon

I’ve got to agree with @J on this one. I’ve never seen Finale even acknowledge Sibelius in the past, and I don’t feel like this comes off as you intend. To the reader, it’s pretty snarky. Both applications are far from perfect, and each has its own strengths and weaknesses. I hope the spirit of this new competitive offensive Finale is taking is one of may the better product win, and not one of mud slinging. I use both applications professionally every day and I wish both companies well, and that you each compete healthily and cleanly to make the best product possible for the user.

And remember, as a glasshouse-dweller, you shouldn’t throw stones. Sibelius has Magnetic Layout, hands down the single most time-saving feature I’ve used in either program to date.

Jon United States

8/27/2011 8:23:32 PM #

Larry Johnson

I don't know what to do with Finale any more.  I own 2008.  I was just told that no more telephone support would be offered period.  So . . . that means to me that if I cannot figure it out on my own, then FORGET THE PROJECT!

I have become very unhappy and disillusioned by this.

I sure don't want to use Finale anymore.

Larry Johnson United States

9/1/2011 9:17:48 AM #

Fred Coulter

Since I cannot log onto the Finale web site and the password recovery doesn't give me a password that works, I really don't have an option between Finale and Sibilius.  I can only buy what I can access.

Fred Coulter United States

9/1/2011 10:12:18 AM #

Scott Yoho

Hi Jon,

Thanks for your comments and perspective.

Best wishes,

Scott at MakeMusic

Scott Yoho

9/1/2011 5:26:24 PM #

Justin Phillips

Hi Larry,

You certainly are entitled to technical support (provided you're running Finale on a supported OS for that version)! I'm not sure the specifics of the case, but I can certainly take a look at it. You can message me at the link below (put "Attn: Justin" in the subject line) and I'll look into it for you.

http://makemusic.custhelp.com/app/ask

Justin at MakeMusic

Justin Phillips United States

9/1/2011 5:27:09 PM #

Justin Phillips

Hi Fred,

Most likely we just need to reset the password. Give us a call at 1-800-843-2066 and one of our agents can reset that for you.

Justin at MakeMusic

Justin Phillips United States

9/2/2011 10:18:11 AM #

Johannes Asal

It's indeed debatable whether Sibelius 7 is a step forward or backward. But looking at Finale's development you must agree that there was much less innovation in the last years compared to Sibelius. Please stop bashing Sibelius and start redesigning or at least improving Finale. That would impress me a lot more than infantile posts about your competitor's deficiencies.

Johannes Asal Germany

9/2/2011 8:43:51 PM #

Scott Yoho

Hi Johannes,

Thanks for your input.

Best wishes,

Scott at MakeMusic

Scott Yoho

9/2/2011 11:01:19 PM #

Cachufeta

Hi Johannes,

I'm absolutely agree with you. You can tell it louder but no more clearly.

Cheer up MakeMusic and go ahead!!

All the best,

Joaquim

Cachufeta Spain

9/10/2011 7:11:27 AM #

Matt Riley

We are very close to joining the wave and switching to Sibelus.  The amount of bugs in Finale code is ridiculous. Unsolved support cases resulting in massive loss of work and time. I don't even bother anymore.  And I've had countless times on the phone with tech support and after a long frustrating conversation they say "wow I guess finale can't do that.  Weird.  It would be nice if it could though.  I can see where it would save you some frustration."  And then the hoops you have to go through to make a chart even readable!  Come on!!  And how long has Rewire been around and you don't support the technology!!!  I could go on and on.

Matt Riley United States

9/12/2011 4:37:21 PM #

Justin Phillips

Hi Matt,

Sorry you've been experiencing some problems over the years. I'm not aware of the details of those interactions, but I can review them if you wish?

Thanks,

Justin at MakeMusic

Justin Phillips United States

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