Finale Shares Better

by Tom Johnson 18. May 2010 03:31

Not so long ago, a common occurrence at music tradeshows was a Finale vs. Sibelius “shootout” where both companies would send representatives to alternately describe the benefits and features of their respective products. I always liked the “shootout” theme, with its cowboy connotations, perhaps because my mom frowned upon gun-themed play when I was a kid.

My favorite shootout occurred several years ago at a College Music Society National Conference in San Francisco. Prior to the event our host, Rocky Reuter, provided a sheet of somewhat complex music to both me and Robin Hodson, my friend and Sibelius’ representative at this convention. We were told to enter this piece in our respective software and to bring the resulting file to the shootout.

[Cue The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly theme]

The shootout was scheduled for that evening. I arrived early to find two long tables, each with a projector screen behind them, and a speaker’s podium set between them facing the audience. Robin and I sat at our prospective tables, set up our gear, and positioned our product logos to appear behind us on the projector screens. We were ready to notate.

[The Ennio Morricone score begins to swell.]

After the room filled with college music department heads, Rocky approached the podium and introduced Robin and me. Then he handed us each a prepared booklet, and instructed us to keep it closed and in view. When Rocky announced “Begin,” Robin and I opened our booklets to find the piece we had previously entered. We both had those pieces up on our computers, projected on the screens behind us for everyone to see.

Rocky then asked us to turn the page, where we discovered more of the same piece. He then instructed us to enter this next section. When we were both done, the process repeated, and repeated again and again.

To all attending it became obvious that both notation programs were professional and excellent at handling a large variety of specific music notation tasks. At the conclusion, Rocky heartily recommended both products for college music use. While probably true, I sat somewhat disappointed at this politically correct declaration.

Next Rocky turned to Robin and asked, “Now, Robin, how would you share what you have written?” I realized that my moment was about to arrive. As Robin expounded on printing and posting to Scorch, I formulated my response. When Robin finished, Rocky turned to me.

I explained how the score I just created in Finale can also be printed, played, and edited in any Finale family product including Finale NotePad and PrintMusic. You can also create an audio file or export your Finale score as either a MIDI file or a MusicXML file to be imported into other music programs. The bull’s-eye, however, was that only Finale can create SmartMusic accompaniments, and I added a short synopsis of SmartMusic’s virtues.

When the dust settled, Rocky, Robin, and I shared a beer in the hotel bar and I free-associated over my Guinness, thinking of how I began to share my mom’s feelings about gun-themed play when I became a parent. My mom was right about a lot of things, and there were few virtues that she regarded more highly than sharing.

[Roll credits against a setting sun.]

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5/7/2010 1:09:46 PM #

Katharine E. McCormack

I meant to rate this 5 stars  ~  it won't let me correct my rating!  So sorry....  Sounds like fun!

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5/7/2010 1:14:25 PM #

Scott Yoho

Thanks Katharine!

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5/8/2010 1:40:50 AM #

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5/9/2010 2:54:42 AM #

Thomas Johnson

Hi Daniel,

Thanks for checking out our blog.

I apologize if you feel I implied that Sibelius doesn’t share Finale’s ability to export MIDI files and audio files – that was not my intention. Here’s some further clarification:

- Finale and Sibelius files can be read by other programs in their respective families. (Note that the entry price to editing Finale files is Finale NotePad at $9.95, while the cheapest route to edit Sibelius files is Sibelius Student at $99.95)
- Scorch does provide a mechanism to securely sell your files through Sibelius, allowing Sibelius to keep 50% of your proceeds.
- While Sibelius 6 files can’t be opened directly in earlier versions of Sibelius, Sibelius does allow you to save files that can be opened in versions back to Sibelius 2. Finale lets you save MusicXML files that can be opened in many programs including Finale Notepad and Finale versions back to Finale 2003. Sibelius users who want to export to MusicXML need to spend an additional $199.95 to do so.

Tom Johnson

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5/11/2010 3:36:37 AM #

Daniel Menjivar

The other notable advantage that Sibelius has over Finale is ability to import/export scores with ProTools, a big advantage, no?  For sure.

Nevertheless, as far as notation programs are concerned, I've used both Sibelius and Finale, (although I only dabbled in Sibelius for a very short period of time), and I can't fathom using anything else other than Finale.  Every year there are new "features" that save time and make task easier, (or better) and I upgrade every year.  But of course, I'm using Finale more than 40 hours a week (usually much more!) so even the slightest time saver makes a huge difference to me.

Anyways, just thought I'd chime in on that Pro Tools bit - it's a big one for a lot of people.

DM

Daniel Menjivar Canada

5/11/2010 4:28:29 AM #

Scott Yoho

Hi Daniel M.,

As I understand it, ProTools can export a file that can be opened in Sibelius. While it saves a step, I'm not certain the results are significantly different than exporting a MIDI file from ProTools and opening that up in Finale. I'd love to hear from anyone who's tried both!

Best wishes,

Scott

Scott Yoho United States

5/11/2010 5:04:14 AM #

Daniel Menjivar

I think you're right Scott.  I just searched the ProTools 8 reference guide, (can't open ProTools right now since I don't have my mBox connected) and it appears to be no different than exporting a MIDI file, the only noted exception being that the .sib (Silelius) file will include any chord changes/symbols.  Not as a big a feature as I thought, or as people made it out to be (to me) - I was given the impression that this new feature in PT8 meant 100% interoperability between the two programs, but such is not the case.  Thanks for clearing that up Scott!

DM

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5/14/2010 2:40:24 PM #

Justin W. Phillips

Hi Daniel,

You are correct, it will bring in chord changes and some layout, however the editing capabilities of the actual notation in Pro Tools 8 are pretty basic beyond MIDI data (using Pro Tool’s MIDI editing capabilities).  

I found it more useful as a guide, and a MIDI file from Finale will react fairly similarly to a Sibelius file.

-Justin

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